(INFO)Got Job Offer, Clear OCP, Also Thanks to Fenng/Tomcar for Their Materials.

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I got the job offer just the same day when I cleared my final one-lz024. I worked in that company for a trial period as a DBA and I showed then my knowledge in oracle. Although they knew I was not a OCP yet, they decided to keep me. Many thanks to this forum and all the friends who provided me useful materials, like Fenng, Tomcar. An OCP is only a kind of knocking door somethings, It was my experience in Oracle--I'm not meaning I'm an expert, I'm still a novice of Oracle, but when you used to meet troubles, and you troubleshooted them, next time, you kown how to deal with them--brought me a job, and the employer gave me this offer not because I would own a cert. This is only my personal experience, and I sinerely believe every one if they take chance to learn, some day later they will be experienced OCP, but at this moment, I really don't have high expectations in OCP cert. It's only as good if it could help me to find a job.
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
Hi stocp,
祝贺你在加拿大找到Oracle DBA的工作.
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
这是一个中国人在没有OCP证书,没有在加拿大从事全职Oracle DBA工作的本地经验的情况下,凭着自己坚实的Oracle 理论基础和过硬的解决Oracle实际问题的能力,在经济极为不景气的加拿大找到全职Oracle DBA工作的成功范例.
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
个人感觉就业的关键在于语言,而不在于技术,中国人(指真正有实际工作经验的,不是吹的)在外在技术上都应该是over qualified 的。
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
Thanks Snow and all the friends here.
And to YYG: Your words are partially right. I really meet some experts in networking, unix and operating systems here.
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
我有一个国内来的朋友在移民加拿大三年多后于近期找到了第一份与IT有关的工作(类似于Oracle DBA).他以前没有任何IT工作的实际经验(转行的). 他在考过OCP后做了一年Oracle 培训教师.
也知道一个在美国做过8年Oracle DBA的加拿大白人公民在被裁员几个月后至今没有找到工作.
还是事在人为.
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
to stocp:
先恭喜你找到DBA的职位,在加关键还是第一步(第一份工作)难,以后就是宽敞大道了。
之所以觉得语言第一,是我的亲身经历。语言不行是很多新移民要作长时间labour的原因。
大多数凭自己本事(指真正本事,真正的工作经历)过来的,都是技术上皎皎者,当然这里要排除那些在国内根本就没有搞过技术,而以技术的名义申请了移民,到加拿大后马上加班加点地学习,应付面试的人,这种人拿到offer是少数,拿到也是运气。我身边就有很多这样的人,虽然他们也有很多其他方面的优点。
就和我一个朋友说的对,像你这种有真正工作经验的人,是一定能找到好工作的,只是时间问题,当然,语言也是关键。所指的时间就是用于熟悉环境、熟悉找工技巧,提高英语。
我的说法对吧 :)
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
YYG斑竹:我觉得你很厉害,可否告之小弟您在何处高就啊
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
Hello all,
What I mentioned experience is that the whole bundle of your background. Only the knowledge in Oracle is not enough. The key issue is the work envioronment requires you to corperate with others, so we have to know how to work with system administrators, how to communicate with developers, as well as how to apply our knowledge in the specific business the employer is in. This is why nowadays a lot of employers don't want a beginner or a people who transfer from other lines, because they may need years of training to abtain the correlative industry experience. In the old days, they lacked of manpower in this field when the industry was in its hey days, so they opened the door for every one who had certain trainnings. Today, it is another story. For example, a lot of company only want to hire senior level developers, because they have bunch of choice.
To YYG, in terms of language skills, you are right, because my oral skills is still the biggest hindrance, because we need to communicate with each other very often. But I think as long as we keep practicing, we will feel more and more comfortable in speeking english. This is also why I always type english on this forum.
Regards,
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千问 | 2005-2-28 12:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
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[B]I got the job offer just the same day 。。。。.[/B]

祝贺你!
保持学习的劲头,定有所成。
keep in touch!
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